South African Commuters Organization Contribution to Taxi Recapitalisation
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30 May 2007
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PUBLIC SERVICES SELECT COMMITTEE
30 May 2007
SOUTH AFRICAN COMMUTERS ORGANIZATION CONTRIBUTION TO TAXI RECAPITALISATION
Chairperson: Mr R Tau (ANC, Northern Cape)
Documents handed out:
South African Commuters Association presentation (awaited)
SUMMARY
The Committee was briefed by the South African Commuters Association (SACO)
on their functioning, policies and methodologies.
Key Issues discussed included the establishment of SACO, SACO structures and membership,
challenges facing commuters, funding and support for SACO, transport in the rural
areas, the relationship with taxi owners, SACO involvement in the Taxi
Recapitalization Project, the China-delegation, Gautrain Project, SACO efforts
to protect commuters and the government’s involvement in SACO.
MINUTES
Presentation by the South African Commuters Organization
Mr. S Sanuweni (President: SACO) briefed the Committee on key issues
regarding SACO involvement, policy and working.
Important issues that were highlighted included: The Founding of SACO, The Goal
of SACO, SACO Contribution to Crisis’s in the Bus Industry, Deliberations with
Dr. Welgemoed, The Taxi Indaba of 28 February 1993, SACO Membership, The
Involvement of SACO in National Transport Policy, The Effect of Taxi Violence
on Commuters, The Involvement of SACO in Stopping Taxi Violence, The
Involvement of SACO in the Taxi Recapitalization Project, The Protection and
Safety of Commuters, China-Delegation, Challenges Facing SACO, The State of
Public Transport in South Africa, Opposition to the Taxi Recapitalization
Project, The Smart-Card System and Public Transport in Rural Areas.
Discussion
The Chairperson started the discussion by introducing the members of
the Committee to the SACO delegates and also welcomed Mr D Viljoen (Deputy
Director, Parliamentary Services) from the Ministry of Transport.
Mr Viljoen commented that he would not respond to the presentation of SACO but
would convey it in full to the Minister.
Ms H Matlanyane (ANC, Limpopo) thanked Mr Sanuweni for his presentation. She
continued by commenting that in Mr Sanuweni’s presentation he had extensively
referred to Gauteng and wanted to know whether SACO members originated mostly
from Gauteng. She asked Mr Sanuweni to explain the SACO national
structure. She further commented that in
all provinces, not just in Gauteng, serious problems were currently experienced
in relation to commuters.
Ms M Oliphant (ANC, Kwazulu-Natal)
commented that it was her understanding that SACO was a Section-21 organization
but asked Mr Sanuweni to elaborate on this assumption. She asked for clarity as
to whether Mr Mac Maharaj had established SACO on a national level or if SACO
was a government initiative. She wanted to know, seeing that part of the taxi
recapitalisation project was to assist those who were reluctant for change,
whether SACO had in practice a strategy to address this. She also wanted to
know whether relations with taxi owners were improving. She continued by emphasising
that some of the conductors in taxis used fowl language and if reprimanded
would simply ignore the complaint. She posed the question of whether commuters were
encouraged to request the taxi drivers not to speed. She further commented that
in rural areas vans, which were usually in very bad condition, were widely used
to transport people and that commuters had no choice but to use these vans.
Rev P Moatshe (ANC, North West) enquired, seeing that SACO was part of the
delegation to establish safer vehicles for use, whether SACO had determined
what kind of vehicle should be used in South Africa. He further asked what
means was being used by SACO for funding; and raised the question of why the government
was not assisting SACO financially.
Mr Sanuweni highlighted the fact that the SACO Provincial Executive had
established-structures in all provinces and added that it was the intention of
SACO to reach all communities. He continued by emphasising that although SACO
was based in Gauteng, it had branches in many other cities. He pointed out that
SACO had been involved in the taxi recapitalisation project since its
inception. He continued by saying that since the first violence started, SACO
had been interacting with the various taxi associations, and added that in the
instances of problem-ranks, SACO would demand a rank to be closed if it serves
in protecting the commuters. He emphasised that SACO had good communication
with those that were reluctant in regards to the taxi recapitalisation project,
and continued by highlighting that SACO also had good relations with the big-6
associations, which he referred to as Club-6. He continued by stating that
there had been miscommunication from the side of government as to the taxi
recapitalisation project, this he added, have in the past lead to frustration
in some of the taxi associations. He pointed out that there were some companies
in the private sector who had tried to delay the taxi recapitalisation project
but emphasised that the recapitalisation project would not be stopped.
Mr Sanuweni also pointed out that the previous government did not care about
commuters and allowed for substandard taxis to be used on the roads. He
continued by saying that SACO was part of the Initiative that went to China and
that SACO insisted that taxis should have decent space, be equipped with a
rollover bar and a Smart-Card machine. He also pointed out that it was SACO
that suggested that the manufacturer considered moving some of its
plant-operations to South Africa. He
continued by assuring the members of the committee that SACO would not allow
for the taxi recapitalization project to be hindered or stopped by those
seeking to serve their own personal interests.
Mr Sanuweni made it clear that it was it is the aim of SACO to ensure that
South Africans, of all colour, had access to public transport that it was safe
and affordable. He continued by expressing his disbelieve in the government’s
claims of budget constraints and exclaimed that the Gautrain project, which amounted
to R21 billion, took only three months to approve. He further stressed the fact
that SACO should enjoy the same status and funding as SANTACO, which is funded
by the provincial governments and given offices and equipment. He continued by
explaining that SACO was indeed a Section-21 organisation but had not been
established by Mac Maharaj but had existed since 1999. Although SACO was not a
government initiative and not funded by the government, it would strive to have
a good relationship with the government without compromising it’s independence. He commented that, with regard to funding,
SACO received no assistance from government and therefore could not pay
salaries to its officials.
Ms N Duso (Member of SACO Delegation) emphasised that everyone, despite colour,
could join SACO. She also commented that SACO was unable to do anything with
regard to the vans being used in rural areas.
Mr T Tyaka (National Chairperson, SACO) commented that both national and provincial
governments were doing a lot to improve roads in developed areas but that not
enough was being done to improve the road-conditions in rural areas.
Ms Matlanyane wanted to know what SACO was doing to spread information
regarding its original goals to communities and also what it was currently
doing in terms of funding. She also stressed her concern as to the number of
members that currently belonged to SACO, which totalled only 9000. She further
asked how poor members were supposed to afford the membership fees of SACO.
Mr Sanuweni responded by saying that initially members had had to pay a joining
fee of R13 but added that this was no longer the case and that people could now
join SACO free of charge. To the
question on the amount of members he responded by saying that SACO currently
had around 12 000 members and not 9000 as mistakenly stated in the
presentation. He added that, with regard to the spreading of information, SACO
had in the past used the radio to inform people as to the goals and aims of
SACO.
The Chairperson
commented that the meeting had been very informative and had helped the Committee
to better understand the challenges that commuters faces on a daily basis. He
expressed his concern as to the vulnerability of commuters due to taxi violence
and poor or lacking service. He added that the victims of violence are almost
without exception the innocent commuters. He further encouraged SACO to attract
members to its organisation by using inexpensive means and going to the taxi
ranks and also stated that it was his believe that membership of the
organization will grow exponentially.
The Chairperson also commented that, with regard to the Monorail project in
Gauteng, rail-transport was a government competence and that government was not
consulted by the consortium that initiated the project. He further commented
that the consortium’s claims of transporting 1 million passengers a day was
questionable. He continued by commenting that SACO should aim to grow its
structures into municipalities and added that SACO was a very good initiative.
He added that although the government gave it no financial support, SACO encouraged
it.
Mr Sanuweni raised his concern about law-enforcement, saying that officials were
often not very helpful to commuters. He emphasised that there had been worrying
reports of police-officials themselves being involved in crimes against some
commuters. He further added that SACO believes that Metro-Rail police should
have their own uniforms so that commuters could easily identify them. He
concluded by saying that SACO would also suggest that taxi’s have one colour as
to avoid confusion by commuters.
The meeting was
adjourned.
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