Adoption of Draft Resolutions

Meeting report

PUBLIC ACCOUNTS STANDING COMMITTEE
23 October 2002
ADOPTION OF DRAFT RESOLUTIONS

[This is a transcript of the meeting, produced by the Public Accounts Committee Secretariat.]

PRESENT

ANC

Chiba, Mr. L
Gumede, Mr. D
Hlangwana, Ms. N
Kannemeyer, Mr. B
Nair, Mr. B
Smith, Mr. V


DP

Lowe, Mr. M

NNP

Beukman, Mr. F (Chairperson)

IFP

Vezi, Mr. E

APOLOGIES

Mofokeng, Mr. R (ANC)
Woods, Dr. G (IFP)
Koornhof, Dr. (UDM)


In attendance

Mr. A Van Dyck (Auditor-General's Office)
Mr. D Titus (Auditor-General's Office)
Mr. C Botes (Auditor-General's Office)

Formalities

The Chairperson welcomed members of the Committee. The agenda was adopted as circulated.

Adoption of minutes.

The Committee adopted minutes of the meetings that took place on the 15 and 16 October 2002 with amendments.

Tabling and adoption of draft resolutions.

Mr. Chiba tabled and presented the following draft resolutions:

Banking Sector Education and Training Authority (BANKSETA)

The resolution was adopted with the following amendments:

The Committee added the following as a recommendation under paragraph 3, AUDIT COMMITTEE, INTERNAL, AND EXTERNAL AUDITORS " The Committee recommends that management indicate to SCOPA whether skills transfer has been effected if the internal service provider has been appointed on a temporary basis"

Financial and Accounting Services Sector Education

The resolution was adopted with the following amendment:

Under paragraph 5, DECISION ON HEARING, sub-paragraph 2, the following were deleted "no correspondence between SCOPA and FASSET be entered into, and that…"

Food and Beverages Manufacturing Sector Education and Training Authority. (FOODBEV SETA)

The resolution was adopted with the following amendments:

Under Paragraph 4, Financial Overview the word "rise" was substituted by "rose" and reference to the year 2001/1 was changed to 2001/2002. The following "2001/2002" were inserted after 80%.

Forest Industries Education and training authority (FIETA)

The resolution was adopted with the following amendment:

Under paragraph 3 FINANCIAL MATTERS, sub-paragraph 2, the following "by 30 November 2002" was inserted after the word proceedings.

Mining Qualifications Authority (MQA-SETA)

The resolution was adopted with the following amendments:

Under paragraph 2, UNUTILISED FUNDS, the amount of R46.3 m was changed to R43.6 m and the word from was replaced by for.

Under paragraph 3, AUDIT COMMITTEE, reference to the year 2001 was changed to 2000.

Chemical Industries Education and Training Authority (CHIETA)

The resolution was adopted with the following amendment:

Under paragraph 2 LEVIES, the word "possibly" was deleted.

Sector Education and Training Authority for Secondary Agriculture. (SETASA)

The resolution was adopted without amendments.

Wholesale and Retail Sector education and Training Authority (W & RSETA)

The resolution was adopted without amendments.

Manufacturing Engineering and Related services Education and training Authority.(MERSETA)

The resolution was adopted without amendments.

3.10 Clothing, Textile, Footwear and Leather Sector Education and Training Authority. (CTFLSETA)

The resolution was adopted with the following amendments:

Under Paragraph 5, DECISION ON HEARING, sub-paragraph 2 was moved to sub-paragraph 3 under paragraph 3 LEVY DEBTORS and the following words "what steps institute to rectified" on the same sub-paragraph were replaced by the following "the steps taken to rectify…"

Transport Education and Training Authority (TETA)

The resolution was adopted with the following amendments:

Under paragraph 1, AUDIT OPINION the following words under sub-paragraph 2 were deleted viz. " …cited … of…. Issues.." and the following "issues of.." was inserted after the word several.

Under paragraph 3, INTERNAL AUDIT, sub-paragraph 3, "s" was added after the word recommend, the word establishment was inserted before the word effectiveness and the following "of the internal Audit function" were inserted after the word reliability.

Under paragraph 4, DISCLOSURE, the following under sub-paragraph 2 were deleted " the Auditor General Report thereon in his next Report" and replaced by "Management furnish a report to SCOPA by 30 November 2002".

Diplomacy, Intelligence, Defence and Trade Education and Training Authority. (DIDTETA)

The resolution was adopted with the following amendments:

Under paragraph 2, RISK ASSESSMENT, sub-paragraph 3 the following words were deleted "well as to implement the full action addressing the risk identify before 31 November 2002 and, that the Auditor-General report thereon in his next report" and they were replaced by "… a matter of urgency and that the Auditor-General…."

Education, Training and Development Practices Sector Education and Training Authority (ETDP-SETA)

The resolution was adopted with the following amendments:

Under paragraph 3, INTERNAL AUDIT, sub-paragraph 2, the following words were deleted "the necessary" and replaced by the word "urgent". On the same sub-paragraph the following " and report to SCOPA on the progress by 15 January 2003" was inserted after the word "situation".

3.14 There were discussions around procedure that should be followed by groups before presenting a draft resolution to Plenary for adoption. It was agreed that Groups should first report to plenary on the content of the Auditor-General's report before adopting or presenting a resolution to plenary for adoption as agreed upon in the draft SCAG-Report. It was argued that this procedure would afford an opportunity to members of other Group to make a valuable input on the way forward.

Draft resolution on the Auditor-General's general report.

The adoption of the resolution on the AG's General Report was postponed to Wednesday, 29 October 2002.

The meeting adjourned at 13:00.