Public Works: Outstanding Committee Minutes

Public Works and Infrastructure

06 November 2012
Chairperson: Ms M Mabuza (ANC)
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Meeting Summary

The Committee met to consider two outstanding Committee Minutes. Members briefly discussed, corrected and made amendments to both documents before adopting them.

The Parliamentary Liaison Officer from the Department of Public Works made some suggestions with regards to some of the issues covered in the minutes.

The Committee agreed that the Chairperson, the Chief Whip of the Committee and a member from the biggest opposition would attend the Construction Industry Summit.

Meeting report

Welcome and Apologies
The Chairperson welcomed everyone and stated said that the purpose of the meeting was to consider and adopt two outstanding minutes.

The Chairperson indicated that apologies had been received from Mr L Gaehler (UDM), Mr Sithole and Mr B Dhlamini (IFP)

Invitation
The Chairperson requested the Committee Secretary to read out the invitation that had been sent to the Committee.

Ms Akhona Busakwe, Committee Secretary, said that the invitation was received from the Department of Public Works (DPW). The Department was hosting a Construction Industry Summit together with the Construction Industry Development Board (CIDB)
, to be held on 23 and 24 November 2012, in Johannesburg. The Committee was not in a position to send all Members to the Summit but could send three delegates as it would have to apply to Parliament to fund this trip.

Mr M Swathe (DA) proposed that the Chairperson and the Chief Whip of the Committee should attend the Summit.

Ms P Ngwenya-Mabila (ANC) proposed that the Chairperson and Ms N Ngcengwane (ANC) be part of the delegation to attend the Summit.

Ms Ngcengwane added the name of Mr Gaehler to be part of that delegation.

The Chairperson pointed out that the third member of the delegation should come from the majority opposition party as requested in the invitation.

Ms C Madlopha (ANC) suggested that Mr Swathe be included as a delegate.

Mr Swathe said they were moving in terms of seniority basis and it was why he had suggested the Chairperson and the Chief Whip of the Committee, and in his party he came after Ms A Dreyer (DA).

The Committee agreed that the Chairperson, Ms Ngcengwane and Ms Dreyer would attend the Summit.
 
Outstanding Committee Minutes
Committee Minutes
dated 17 October 2012
The Chairperson tabled the minutes for consideration.

Ms Ngwenya-Mabila corrected several minor grammatical and stylistic errors in the report.

Ms Ngcengwana pointed out a minor grammatical error in the document.

Mr Swathe pointed out omissions in paragraph 2.1.12 on page 4 of the document.

Ms Madlopha corrected grammar used in point 3.6 of the report

Mr Swathe moved for the adoption of the minutes with amendments.

Ms Ngcengwane seconded the move.

The Committee adopted the minutes with amendments.

Committee Minutes dated 23 October 2012
The Chairperson tabled the minutes for consideration.

Ms Madlopha noted that paragraph 2.5 on page 3 stated that in 2011 a shared energy contractor was appointed in the following regions: Cape Town, Durban, Polokwane and Mmabatho. She asked whether it was one contractor that had been appointed in all those regions and if not, the sentence had to change to read “shared energy contractors were appointed in the following regions: Cape Town, Durban, Polokwane and Mmabatho”.

Ms Ngwenya-Mabila said paragraph 2.8 on page 4 needed to be clarified because it did not make any sense. It was hard to understand what was meant in that paragraph.

Mr Mpho Mashaba, Parliamentary Liaison Officer, DPW, explained that the paragraph related to the challenge the Department had in terms of constructing buildings. The As-Built Plans referred to the plans of why the building was constructed and delivered. The Department did not have access to those plans, it could not tamper with some of the things involved and changes that had been done in the building, and that was the challenge for the Department.

Mr Mashaba suggested that paragraph 2.8 was cluttered and should be separated into two sentences because when the Department talked about access to facilities it was talking about two different challenges- the first related to As-Built plans and the second category was access to facilities, and buildings belonging to South African National Defence Force (SANDF) and the Department of Correctional Services (DCS) which provided security measures and one could not get access to those buildings.

Mr Mashaba also noted that the Committee would need clarity in terms of paragraph 2.9 because Members would not know what was happening at the Luthuli Museum and it was apparent that some rewiring had been done but it would depend on the extent of the renovations to the Luthuli Museum.

Ms Madlopha said that she was not sure if the Committee should separate paragraph 2.8 because she was of the view that the Department was listing all the challenges the Independent Development Trust (IDT) faced in the implementation of the projects.

Mr Mashaba suggested that if that was the case then the Committee could use semi-colons instead of commas to separate the different challenges.

Ms Ngcengwane needed clarity on whether paragraph 2.10 was not supposed to be divided into two paragraphs because that paragraph started with the challenges encountered by the National Department of Public Works and in the middle of it there was a sentence which stated that the energy efficiency initiatives were implemented successfully.

The Chairperson asked for clarity in paragraph 3.1 on page 5 on whether the 10 extra buildings were part of the overall 120 buildings or if they were additional buildings from the 120 buildings.

The Chairperson said that the Committee Secretary should seek clarity on some of the issues raised by Members and amend all the corrections made to the report.

Ms Madlala moved for the adoption of the minutes with amendments.

Ms Madlopha seconded the move.

The Committee adopted the minutes.

The meeting was adjourned.

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