Thank you very much, hon Mahlalela. I think you are correct. From where we come from, in terms of this pandemic, it has been a difficult road. What made this road ... this journey ... very difficult was the fact that people were, first of all, afraid to test. If I could call these members now and say, let's go and test, they would think twice. They would think twice. Ordinary people out there ... if you say let's go and test ... that was a very big struggle. People resisted. However, we have overcome that hurdle. Many, many more people were coming forward in order to test. But, beyond the testing comes the results which show that you are either negative or positive. What do you do with the results, especially you and the person next door to you?
Now, if you are diagnosed as being HIV positive, it's not a death penalty. It means you have this disease and this disease can be managed. You can still live your life. It's like any other disease that a human being can have. However, in our society once you are diagnosed as being positive that means you are going to die today. And I