Yes, I think it
is regarded in some circles that the community development workers as to some entry to public service. I think the day we are able to conclude on the allocation in terms of the department and the application of values, norms and standards to them, they will be able to see their way. I would say that there are cases where they really have moved up. So, I think we have to encourage them and create an environment that is encouraging them. Thanks to Public Administration Management Act, PAMA, it will allow movement up and down within the public service and not that you employ them and they don't get locked on a permanent basis because they are human beings and others are young. Others, because of unemployment, they would have a degree but still work there as community development workers. Therefore, I think what you are saying is quite correct. We have to encourage them to move up. Thank you.
The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi) Hon members, allow me to take this opportunity to thank the Deputy Minister of Public Service and Administration, hon Macingwane, for availing himself to take the Questions. Thank you, Macingwane. [Applause.]
Question 107: