THE DEPUTY CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: ORDER HON MEMBERS! IN ACCORDANCE WITH COUNCIL RULE 247(1), THERE WILL BE NO NOTICES OF MOTION OR MOTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE. BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH QUESTIONS, LET ME TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME THE DEPUTY MINISTER. IS IT PUBLIC ENTERPRISES? [APPLAUSE.] SO, IT WAS JUST SWAPPED ... TO SAY IT WILL BE THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND THE MINISTER OF PUBLIC ENTERPRISES. IT WAS JUST SWAPPED. WE ALSO WANT TO WELCOME THE MINISTER OF SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. SHE HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE. IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT SHE'S HERE WITH US. SO WELCOME. WELCOME DEPUTY MINISTER, MY FORMER COLLEAGUE. IT'S YOUR FIRST TIME. YES, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME HERE.