Hon Carrim, please take your seat. You stood first hon Paulsen.
IsiZulu:
Mhlongo! Hlala phansi baba kancane.
English:
He is impugning on the character and the integrity of members of this House. I am asking you to order him to withdraw that. We have not been involved with VBS Mutual Bank. People involved with VBS Mutual Bank are from your ANC ranks - your mayors and all this trash! [Interjections.]