On the issue of the IFP and the NFP, Mr Khubisa and Mr Singh, there is very little from what you said that I can see as distinct from what the ANC says. I ask you, in KwaZulu-Natal, what is the real battle about votes? It is really between the IFP, ANC, and NFP on one side and those who in some or other form, care about the poor and disadvantaged in a social democratic inorientation and the free marketeers. The free marketeers will learn nothing. They defend the private sector even more that it defends itself.