machine designs everything or through software, designs everything before you go build it in the factory, and that is going to replace workers. And they were consumed by a notion which I found very comforting, which is how to ensure that there is a good transition for workers to be retrained, to be reskilled and to be upskilled, so that as artificial intelligence comes fully into its own, people don't lose jobs. And the view was also expressed that this new industrial revolution we facing is actually having the potential to create even more jobs, and that still needs to be explored.