Hon Mnguni, is it a point of order?
Hon Speaker, I just wish to even read this Rule. It is Rule 84 (1), which says that no person may impute improper motives to any other member ... [Interjections.] ... and then it goes on. Clearly, what hon Mkhaliphi has just done is exactly just that. Rule 85(2) allows hon Mkhaliphi to do that, but she cannot rise on this particular aspect, she must do so through a substantive motion, then we can deal with it at that stage. Thank you.
I see hon Mulder's hand, which is quite rare. [Laughter.]
Hon Speaker, there is a tradition that allows members to make points of order or to argue before you make a decision. I heard what the hon member from the ANC has just said, but if we cannot ask a question like these to the hon President, what should we do? The hon member only said that these things are allegations, and