We then had the cost overruns. When we were in the war room, the cost overruns were quite evident. We were now getting into the type of cost overruns on Medupi and Kusile. What was also not evident at the time was the problem with the design of the power stations, particularly Medupi and Kusile. The design challenges that Minister Gordhan has spoken about were not evident. What we also dealt with, that we had to countenance was the age of our power stations and all those. The war room dealt with those issues and before it could dig its teeth right deep in, we suggested that we should close it and get a CEO in place, and the rest is history. Thank you very much. [Interjections.]