In other companies they either go to banks and or to the bond market. Eskom has been going to the bond market, to the banks and all that as one monolithic company. The funders are now saying, you are too big, you have got too much debt because we have lent you money and invested in your bonds, we want to see restructuring. Restructure yourself; we want to see a plan, a credible plan that will take Eskom forward.