they have control. In my view they got excited when we raised this issue. They are going to be working very closely with Minister Mthethwa on issues such as arts and culture.
We also delved into traditions and the cultures of our people and the languages. There is a lot that we spoke about which we are now going to start taking forward. All in all, we had a fantastic debate in the National House of Traditional Leaders where there was a good sense of co-operation. The great feeling was that we can work together and resolve many challenges that our traditional leaders still have. We had a sense that they are resolvable and it will be very good in terms of consolidating the relationship between national government, provincial government and local government with our traditional leaders. Thank you very much.