chair. At this meeting, we were given sight of the full PIC investment portfolio, including unlisted investments. This was a huge credit to Mcebisi Jonas, and to Abel Sithole and Dan Matjila, who were exposing themselves to public scrutiny as never before. A full report on all the PIC investments was subsequently tabled with the Standing Committee on Finance. This public exposure of the investment portfolio by Dan Matjila seems to fly in the face of the accusations of self-enrichment, and seemed to be an indication of political and ideological interference as being a key factor in bad investments. No doubt, the Mpati Commission of Inquiry will get to the bottom of this vexed question.