Hon members, can we allow the Minister to just give us information.
He is giving us excuses!
Continue hon Minister.
Who are you?
Who are you?
Can you continue hon Minister.
So, for those who are interested, we are addressing these issues. I have yesterday met with the board and today had various interactions and we are beginning to understand where the problems are in some of the very old power stations. However, we have also taken new initiatives where the board and myself have agreed that we are going to bring in external power station engineers, have an independent audit done on what is exactly going on so that we put Eskom back on track and give South Africans sooner rather