Mr Pumzile Justice Mnguni

Point of principle, here is an unparliamentarily expression here, from the year 2000 to

House Chair, I rise on a point of order. Can we ask the hon member brandishing cameras there to please desist from doing that, it's not allowed in the House.

Hon Deputy Speaker, on a point of order: I do know that hon Van Schalkwyk did not hear the vernacular. Certainly, to call the member on the podium a liar ...