The ACTING DEPUTY SPEAKER (Ms C-S Botha): Thank you very much, hon Minister. Before I take Orders number 3 and 4, I wish to give a ruling on a point of order raised in the House on 20 September. Hon members, during a debate on a motion regarding the conduct of the hon Mr Gibson in the House on Wednesday, 20 September, the hon Chief Whip of the Majority Party raised a point of order contending that the hon Ellis was contravening the sub judice rule by making certain remarks.