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  • September »
  • 05 »
  • PROCEEDINGS OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY (Wednesday, 05 September 2007)

NO1958E

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  • Speaker 5 Sep 2007 hansard

    Question 254, which has been asked by hon M Waters to the Minister of Health, has been ruled out of order, and Mr Waters has been informed accordingly. The DA's next question on the Question Paper ...

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  • Chief Whip Of The Opposition hansard

    Madam Speaker, will you take a point of order?

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  • Speaker hansard

    Yes, what's your point?

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  • Chief Whip Of The Opposition hansard

    Can I ask for the reasons why that question has been removed from the Order Paper?

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  • Speaker hansard

    I have ruled the question by Mr Waters out of order, because it transgresses the Rules and practices of the National Assembly, particularly Rule 63, which forbids the use of offensive or unbecoming language. It is patently clear from the question that was submitted by the hon member that it reflected on the integrity of the Minister as it impugns impropriety on her part.

    As you know, it is established practice in this House that allegations against another member can only be brought before the House by way of a substantive motion, and such a motion should be properly motivated and substantiated.

    Members cannot be allowed to reflect on the integrity of others in the form of questions or other means other than through the mechanisms that this House has imposed upon itself. [Interjections.] So, I am not going to debate that issue with you, Mr Davidson. I have ruled the question out of order, and am not allowing a debate about the matter. Mr Davidson, I'd like you to take your seat regarding this matter. [Interjections.]

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  • Dr J T Delport hansard

    Madam Speaker, on a further point of order, may I suggest that the Chair is not in order by simply directing a member to take his seat when he is willing ... [Interjections.]

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  • Speaker hansard

    Hon Delport, I also want you to take your seat, because I am not allowing a debate on Question 254, which I have ruled out of order and that is the end of that particular issue. [Interjections.] We now come to Question 298. [Interjections.]

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    Mr M Waters hansard

    Madam Speaker, as the person who submitted that question, could you refer me to the exact words which are unbecoming, please?

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    Hon Waters, I have finished with the issue of Question 254. If there is nothing else you want to raise, I'd like you to take your seat ...

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    Mr M Waters hansard

    I would like you to direct me to those words ...

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  • Speaker hansard

    I am not allowing you ...

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    Mr M Waters hansard

    ... that are unbecoming of an MP ... [Interjections.]

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  • Speaker hansard

    Hon Waters, get out of the House. [Interjections.]

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    Mr M Waters hansard

    I will not. I want to know ...

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  • Speaker hansard

    Hon Waters, get out of the House ... [Interjections.] Get out. Leave the House.

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    Mr M Waters hansard

    I will not ... [Interjections.]

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  • Speaker hansard

    Hon Waters, get out of the House ... [Interjections.]

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    Mr M Waters hansard

    I want to know what is unbecoming ... [Interjections.]

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  • Speaker hansard

    Leave the House, Waters. [Interjections.]

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    Mr M Waters hansard

    Is that an instruction from Luthuli House or from yourself?

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  • Speaker hansard

    It is an instruction from me, and I would like you to leave the House, hon Waters. [Interjections.] Hon Waters, leave the House.

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    Mr M Waters hansard

    This, Madam Speaker, is a farce and you know it ...

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  • Speaker hansard

    Hon Waters, leave the House.

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    Mr M Waters hansard

    It's an absolute farce. You are covering up for a thief ...

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    Leave the House ...

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    Mr M Waters hansard

    You are covering up for a thief. [Interjections.]

    Mr M Waters, having disregarded the authority of the Chair, was ordered to withdraw from the Chamber for the remainder of the day's sitting. [Interjections.]

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  • Speaker hansard

    Order! [Interjections.] Order, hon members! [Interjections.] Question 298 ... [Interjections.]

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  • Chief Whip Of The Majority Party hansard

    Madam Speaker, I just wanted to warn people who want to wreck these proceedings that, for their own good, they must behave or leave Parliament. [Interjections.]

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  • Chief Whip Of The Opposition hansard

    Madam Speaker, on a point of order, on what point did the hon Chief Whip rise? [Interjections.]

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  • Speaker hansard

    Hon members, can you take your seats. I now want us to proceed to Question 298.

    Proposed visits by Portfolio Committees of Parliament to departments other than their designated departments 298. Mr M B Skosana (IFP) asked the Minister for the Public Service and Administration:

    Whether, in light of the recent appeal made by President Mbeki that government departments should undertake closer cooperation for effective service delivery, the Portfolio Committees of Parliament need to visit government departments other than their designated departments in pursuing cross-cutting issues in order to facilitate and coordinate service delivery at all levels of society; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, what are the relevant details?

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