Deputy Speaker, I don't want to dwell on the matters in general regarding Eskom. I'm sure that the Minister of Public Enterprises will be able to and should talk about it in due course. If members want to ask the President, they obviously have the ability to do that.
However, there is one aspect that definitely must be corrected here and now. The hon Kganare, who I don't see in the House now, alleged that the ANC was involved in this matter and that our involvement as the ANC was caused by racialism.
This morning, speaking on behalf of the ANC, the secretary-general of the ANC, Gwede Mantashe, coming out of a national executive committee meeting of the ANC, condemned in very firm terms - in fact, he described it as the lowest level of irrationality, if I heard him correctly - any attempt to ascribe race to the problems involved in the board and in the executive of Eskom. [Interjections.]
He also specifically said - and it was not just the National Union of Mineworkers, but also the ANC through its Secretary-General who said - that we have no grounds whatsoever for regarding Bobby Godsell as a racist. And he rejected any attempt to do that.
Since I'm dealing with the hon Kganare, I'd also like to say that he suggested that blue lights should be made available to other youth leaders. Given the level of civil war in Cope's youth section, I think that we could look very favourably, as government, at providing it with blue lights. [Applause.]