Modulasetulo, ke tlo bolela ka pego ya go t?wa go Committee on Private Members' Legislative Proposals and Special Petitions yeo e bego e lebelet?e kgopelo ye e ikgethilego ya go dirwa ke Munasur ka mohl Landers. Mokgopedi o be a ?upa gore mosadi wa gagwe yo a kilego a ba mo?omedi wa mmu?o o ile a tlogela mo?omo ka tsela yeo e lego gore ka yona ga a dumelelwa go fiwa phen?ene go ya ka Sephetho sa 7 sa 1998 le Sephetho sa 12 sa 2002. Mna Munasur o ?upa gore ge nkabe mosadi wa gagwe a sa kgaot?wa go ba setho sa ba?omedi ba mmu?o, seo a thomilego go ba sona ka 17 Agostose 1977 go fihlela ka 20 Febereware 1985 - moo a bego a t?ewa bjalo ka motho yo a sa dumelelwago go fiwa phen?ene - gomme a boa a t?wela pele a ?omela mmu?o go tloga ka 21 Febereware go fihlela ka 18 Agosetose 1989, nkabe a hwedit?e t?helete ya gagwe ya phen?ene. Ntate Munasur o bont?ha fa gore ge nkabe molao wa kgethollo o se huet?e molao wo re o ?omi?ago gona bjale, mosadi wa gagwe nkabe a hwedit?e t?helete ya phen?ene yeo e thomilego go tsent?hwa tiri?ong ka 2 Setemere 1998.
Ka gona, re rile ge re lebelela dintlha ka moka le dikelet?o t?e re di hwedit?ego go boramelao ba Palamente re le komiti, ra hwet?a t?hupo ya gore ga a dumelelwa go fiwa phen?ene yeo ga bjale. Lebaka ke gore re dumela gore Munasur ga a ?omi?a ditsela ka moka t?e di lego gona, ye nngwe ya t?ona e lego go ya kgorong ya tsheko. Ka gona, komiti e kgopela gore kgopelo ye e se ke ya dumelelwa go t?wet?wa pele go fihlela ge mong wa yona a ka latela ditsela ka moka t?eo di lego gona, go akaret?a le go ya kgorong ya tsheko. Re kgopela gore pego ye e amogelwe bjalo ka pego ya Palamente. Ke a leboga, Modulasetulo. (Translation of Sepedi paragraphs follows.)
[Mr S G THOBEJANE: Chairperson, I will talk about the report from the Committee on Private Members' Legislative Proposals and Special Petitions, which was looking at a special application made by Munasur through hon Landers.
The applicant was indicating that his wife worked for government and lost the job in such a way that she could not be given her pension benefits as per Resolution 7 of 1998 and Resolution 12 of 2002. Mr Munasur's point is that had his wife's services as a government employee not been terminated, where she was a member from 17 August 1977 to 20 February 1985 - where she was regarded as not entitled to pension benefits - and resumed her duties as government employee from 21 February to 18 August 1989, she could have received her pension benefits. Mr Munasur points out that had the apartheid law not influenced the current law, his wife could have received pension benefits with effect from 2 September 1998.
Having made consultation with the parliamentary legal experts, with all the detailed information about the matter at hand, as the committee we concluded that she is not entitled to pension benefits as of now. It was agreed that protocols were not followed, one of which is to refer the matter to court. Therefore, the committee requests that the application be halted until the applicant adheres to all protocol, including that of referring the matter to court. We further request that this be treated as a parliamentary report. I thank you.] There was no debate.
Chairperson, I move:
That the Report be adopted.
The motion is that the report be adopted. Are there any objections?
Chairperson, I wonder if the hon Deputy Chief Whip would like to give us a better translation than the one we have just heard on the translation service. That is because we are not sure that we can actually give a considered opinion on this without his direct input on this matter.
Are you saying that there was no translation?
There was a translation but it was not particularly good. I thought that the Deputy Chief Whip might be able to help us out on this one.
I am not sure what you mean when you say it was not good enough. Did you not understand? [Interjections.]
Chairperson, jokes aside.
Do you think that the Deputy Chief Whip would give you a better one?
Chairperson, I have no doubt that he would because that would not be very difficult.
I am going to honour that. Is it possible to paraphrase that?
Chairperson, Mr Landers, on behalf of Mr Munasur, made an application in terms of private members' legislation and petitions, but the committee feels that he has not exhausted every avenue possible. Therefore, the committee recommends that the application not be agreed to.
That is the gist of it.
Chairperson, we will certainly go along with that. Thank you.
Motion agreed to.
Report accordingly adopted.