Hon Deputy Speaker, let us appreciate the fact that while members of the parties across the floor are speaking loudly about human rights, they are by implication decrying the fact that the ANC continues to have good relations with the People's Republic of China.
I want to remind hon members that the ANC's struggle against apartheid took 82 years. Many people on the continent were blaming the ANC for taking so long to change the situation. They were asking them why they didn't fight and defeat the oppressors as the latter were few in number. The ANC, because of its inherent belief in human rights, went on and on with discussions, negotiations and persuasion. That is the way the ANC will do things. Thank you, hon Deputy Speaker. [Applause.]
Order! I see the hon Kubayi. [Interjections.] Can we have order, please, hon members? Can we have order? We want to listen.