Hon Speaker, with regard to what the hon Groenewald has said, I'm not sure why the FF Plus has suddenly seen it fit to polarise South Africa on the basis of race. On the day when the President was speaking here, the hon member put a question loaded with racial implications and undertones. So this is not clear, and today he has put another question, about youth.
Of course, the government has youth programmes, including one led by the National Youth Development Agency, NYDA. We also have one in our department. They are nonracial. We've got young white chaps there. It's got nothing to do with race; it's got to do with raising our country's profile in regard to building a nonracial society here. So why is it that the hon members over there do this? Have they run out of policy options? What's the problem? We think that we need, perhaps, to look carefully at why ...
Agb Speaker, punt van orde. [Hon Speaker, a point of order.]
Just take your seat, hon Minister. Yes, hon member, what is your point of order?
Agb Speaker, ek wil weet of dit in orde is as 'n agb Minister reageer op 'n lidverklaring, maar hy het nie verstaan wat ek ges het nie. Ons het dit juis veroordeel. Die VF Plus het juis rassisme veroordeel, en die agb Minister kom hier, maar hy verstaan nie, want hy s ons bly daarmee voortgaan. (Translation of Afrikaans paragraph follows.)
[Mr P J GROENEWALD: Hon Speaker, I want to know if it is in order for an hon Minister to respond to a member's statement when he has not understood what I said. We were, in fact, condemning it. The FF Plus, in fact, condemned racism, but the hon Minster here has not understood this, because he is saying that we keep perpetuation it.]
Hon Minister, proceed. Respond to what the hon member has said.
Speaker, the hon member assumes that I didn't understand because he speaks Afrikaans and I speak isiXhosa. That is a problem, and that is exactly the point I'm talking about. [Applause.] [Interjections.]
Address the issue, hon Minister.
Hon Speaker, I am saying ...
Agb Speaker, op 'n verdere punt van orde ... [Hon Speaker, on a further point of order ...]
Hon Minister, just hold on. What is your point of order, hon member?
Hon Speaker, as far as I know, there is an interpreting service in Parliament.
Yes!
Now, I will repeat my question. I want to know whether it is in order for an hon Minister to respond to a member's statement, even though he doesn't understand what was said in the statement. The FF Plus expressly condemned racism. [Interjections.] Now the hon Minister wants to know why we are talking about racism. If he doesn't understand what the member's statement was about, how can he respond to it? Thank you, Speaker.
Is it truly a point of order, sir?
Hon member, please take your seat - the other member. You remain standing until I tell you to sit down. [Laughter.] Hon Minister, please address what the hon member has been saying, and please try to keep it short.
UMPHATHISWA WEZAMAPHANDLE NOPHUHLISO LWEZEMIHLABA: Somlomo ohloniphekileyo, yonke le nto ayithethayo umhlekazi uGroenewald lo isiseko sayo sinye. Bubuhlanga nokuba uyivela ngaluphina uhlobo. Akakwazi ukundichazela ngendlela emandiphendule ngayo akugqiba ukutyhola umbutho wethu owakha isizwe athi wakha ubuhlanga. Andizi kuxelelwa nguye ukuba ndiphendule njani na. Enkosi, Sihlalo, kulo ndawo.
Okokugqibela, ndifuna ukuthi kukho ilungu elithi i-ANC ayinakuthenjwa ukuba ingaphatha oorhulumente bokuhlala. Lilungu le-DA elithetha oko. I-ANC apha eMzantsi Afrika ineevoti ezingaphezu kwama-60 eepesenti kwaye ilawula oomasipalati abaninzi. (Translation of isiXhosa paragraphs follows.)
[The MINISTER OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND LAND REFORM: Hon Speaker, all that is said by hon Groenewald is based on one thing. It is an outright racism. He cannot tell me how to answer after he accused our party, which is building the nation, and say it is encouraging racism. He is not going to tell me how to answer. On that, Chairperson, thank you.
Lastly, I would like to mention that there is a member who says the ANC cannot be trusted to govern local governments. The member who said that is from the DA. The ANC in South Africa has more than 60% of votes and is governing many municipalities.]
One swallow doesn't make a summer.
Ngenxa yokuba bekhokela iKapa bazibona ukuba bangenza ngcono kune-ANC. Ngendlela esibaninzi ngayo apha kwi-ANC, umntu ngamnye owenza impazamo, lo mntu ngowe-ANC.Yinyaniso leyo eMzantsi Afrika kuba i-ANC inabantu abaninzi. Nokuba kukho umntu ogilwe yimoto xa uqala ukujonga ungacinga ukuba ngowe- ANC kuba sibaninzi thina. Yi-ANC elawula eli lizwe. (Translation of isiXhosa paragraph follows.)
[They think they can do much better than the ANC just because they are leading the Western Cape. As we are the majority in the ANC, anyone who is making a mistake is believed to be an ANC member. It is true that in South Africa the ANC has majority support. Even if there is a person who has been hit by a car, you may think that he belongs to the ANC because we are in the majority. It is the ANC that governs this country.]