Have all members voted?
No!
Have you pressed? Can you press again? It will be checked afterwards. Hon members, don't panic, just press. It will show up here. We will close the voting and it will show. If it doesn't show, we will do it again. Thank you, the voting session is now closed.
My thing is not working, hon Deputy Speaker. [Laughter.]
That will be very sad.
Deputy Speaker, just to make sure that the members' votes are recorded, can we submit a list of names to the Table? [Interjections.] Two of the members' machines are not working.
No, no! We've just closed the voting. I'm waiting for the results. All that will follow after we've seen the results, please. [Interjections.] Order, hon members! I'm told that we need to rerun the voting because it appeared on the screen but didn't print. The Table feels it's going to work this time.
Are all members in their allocated seats? The voting will now commence. Those in favour of the Bill being read a second time will press the "Yes" button, those against will press the "No" button and those wishing to abstain should press the "Abstain" button. Have all members voted? The voting session is now closed. [Interjections.]
Deputy Speaker, I rise to ask you to calm hon Mpontshane down. He is very agitated because his thing is not working ... [Laughter.] ... and I thought it important to calm him down in order to indicate that his thing would not make a difference anyway. [Laughter.]
Order, hon members!
Deputy Speaker, I really wouldn't mind that because I'm nearing my 60s. [Laughter.]
Hon Mpontshane, the irony is - and I'm sure this always happens - that when you are told about something, it stays in your mind. Your name is here, which means your thing is working. [Laughter.]
Deputy Speaker, I think we must be even more worried now. [Laughter.] The member doesn't know that his thing is working. [Laughter.]
Madam Chair, may I ask the hon Minister a question. How does she know whether Mr Mpontshane's thing is or isn't working? [Laughter.]
The hon Minister knows because Mr Mpontshane said so! [Laughter.] Order, hon members!
AYES - 181: Abram, S; Adams, P E; Ainslie, A R; Bapela, K O; Bhengu, F; Bhengu, N R; Bhoola, R B; Bikani, F C; Bonhomme, T; Borman, G M; Boshigo, D F; Botha, Y R; Bothman, S G; Burgess, C V; Cele, M A; Chikunga, L S; Chiloane, T D; Chohan, F I; Coleman, E M; Cwele, S C; Dambuza, B N; Daniels, P N; De Lange, J H; Diale, L N; Dikgacwi, M M; Ditshetelo, I C; Dlakude, D E; Dlamini-Zuma, N C; Dlulane, B N; Dudley, C; Duma, N M; Dunjwa, M L; Fihla, N B; Frolick, C T; Fubbs, J L; Gasebonwe, T M A; Gaum, A H; Gcwabaza, N E; Gelderblom, J P; Gina, N; Goqwana, M B; Gumede, D M; Hajaig, F; Hanekom, D A; Huang, S - B; Jeffery, J H; Johnson, M; Kekana, C D; Kenye, T E; Kholwane, S E; Khumalo, F E; Khunou, N P; Koornhof, G W; Lekgetho, G; Lesoma, R M M; Line, H; Lishivha, T E; Luyenge, Z; Mabasa, X; Mabedla, N R; Mabuza, M C; Madlala, N M; Madlopha, C Q; Mafolo, M V; Magama, H T; Magubane, E; Magwanishe, G; Makasi, X C; Makhubela-Mashele, L S; Makhubele, Z S; Malale, M l; Malgas, H H; Maluleka, H P; Maluleke, J M; Manamela, K B; Manana, M C; Mandela, Z M D; Mangena, M S; Maserumule, F T; Mashigo, R M; Mashishi, A C; Masilo, J M; Masutha, T M; Mathebe, P M; Mathibela, N F; Matlanyane, H F; Matshoba, J M; Mavunda, D W; Mayatula, S M; Mbili, M E; Mdaka, M N; Mdakane, M R; Mgabadeli, H C O; Mjobo, L N; Mlambo, E M; Mmusi, S G; Mnisi, N A; Mohale, M C; Mohorosi, M; Mokoena, A D; Molewa, B E E; Moloi-Moropa, J C; Moloto, K A; Moni, C M; Moss, L N; Motimele, M S; Motsepe, R M; Mthethwa, E N; Mthethwa, E M; Mufamadi, T A; Mushwana, F F; Ndabandaba, L B G; Ndabeni, S T; Ndlanzi, A Z; Nelson, W J; Nene, N M; Newhoudt-Druchen, W S; Ngcengwane, N D; Ngcobo, B T; Ngcobo, E N N; Ngele, N J; Ngwenya, W; Ngwenya-Mabila, P C; Nhlengethwa, D G; Nonkonyana, M; November, N T; Ntapane, S Z; Ntuli, Z C; Nxesi, T W; Nxumalo, M D; Nyalungu, R E; Nyekemba, E; Oliphant, G G; Pandor, G N M; Peters, E D; Petersen-Maduna, P; Phaahla, M J; Phaliso, M N; Pilane-Majake, M C C; Pilusa-Mosoane, M E; Radebe, B A; Radebe, G S; Saal, G; Schneemann, G D; Segale-Diswai, M J; September, C C; Sibanyoni, J B; Sibiya, D; Sindane, G S; Sithole, S C N; Sizani, P S; Skosana, J J; Smith, V G; Snell, G T; Sogoni, E M; Sonto, M R; Sosibo, J E; Suka, L; Sulliman, E M; Sunduza, T B; Surty, M E; Swart, S N; Tinto, B; Tlake, M F; Tobias, T V; Tsebe, S R; Tseke, G K; Tsenoli, S L; Tshabalala, J; Tshwete, P; Tsotetsi, D R; Twala, N M; Van der Merwe, S C; Van Rooyen, D D; Van Wyk, A; Williams, A J; Williams-De Bruyn, S T; Xaba, P P; Xasa, T; Ximbi, D L; Zulu, B Z.
NOES - 23: Bhanga, B M; Cebekhulu, R N; Diemu, B C; Dikobo, K J; Kganare, D A; Kilian, J D; Koornhof, N J J; Lucas, E J; Madisha, W M; Makhuba, H N; Mbhele, P D; McIntosh, G B D; Mnguni, P B; Mpontshane, A M; Msimang, C T; Msweli, H S; Ndlovu, V B; Njobe, M A A; Ntshiqela, P; Plaatjies, S K; Ramatlakane, L; Singh, N; Sithole, K P.
ABSTAIN - 41: De Freitas, M S F; Eloff, E H; Esau, S; Farrow, S B; George, D T; Greyling, L W; Hill-Lewis, G G; Kloppers-Lourens, J C; Krumbock, G R; Lorimer, J R B; Lotriet, A; Marais, E J; Marais, S J F; Maynier, D H; Mazibuko, L D; McGluwa, J J; Michael, N W A; Mokgalapa, S; More, E; Motau, S C; Ollis, I M; Paulse, S; Rabie, P J; Rabotapi, P M W; Robinson, D; Schfer, D A; Selfe, J; Shinn, M R; Smalle, J F; Steenhuisen, J H; Steyn, A; Stubbe, D J; Swart, M; Swathe, M M; Van den Berg, N J; Van der Linde, J J; Van der Westhuizen, A P; Van Schalkwyk, H C; Waters, M; Watson, A; Wenger, M.
Question agreed to.
Bill accordingly read a second time.