I am not the Minister of Finance, Mr Speaker. In respect of what the hon Lorimer has just said, he doesn't know what brought down apartheid, because he was on the other side. Ask us, we bear the scars, and he was on the other side. He has no right to claim responsibility for something he did not do. Until he has earned that right, he should shut his mouth and that should keep ... [Inaudible.] ... out of the House now.
Let me also deal with hon Ross, and add hon Koornhof to that. If you want to pass a budget and to implement the policies of your party, there is a necessary step you should follow, which is to win elections. I am saying to the DA and Cope, it will not happen in your lifetime or mine. You have to win the election first before you earn that right. It is a right earned in a democracy. Thank you very much. [Applause.]