Thank you hon member, but you will also note at the same time that I said I will come back to the House to verify that. [Interjections.] If I have erred then I have all the right to come back and verify it with the House. [Interjections.] Thank you very much.
Sorry Chairperson?
Hon Hill-Lewis, why are you rising?
Sir, while you were speaking the hon Paulsen said into his microphone - but I don't think that you heard it - to put it crudely, the member is a liar. Now, that is unparliamentary ... [Interjections.] ... and I would ask that you listen to the Hansard and rule on that as well please.