I now put Vote 5. Any ... Sorry, sorry, hon Cloete ... hon Cloete. You are rising on?
Chairperson, I just want to make a point of order. At which stage are we allowed to do declarations, because the parties have indicated that they want to do declarations?
Let me consult the Table. May we continue? The problem that I am having here is that every time ... You have seen in all the ways that we have been voting that there is always a difference. So, according to the guide, they have not necessarily provided for declarations of vote - hon Du Toit, unless you want to preside here, but allow me to speak, to finish speaking. I'm ruling, and what we are going to do is request ... We divide the House, firstly, then we request for the votes, and then after the votes you can make a declaration. I am ruling ...
I am rising on a point of order. Chairperson, with all due respect, the Rules of this House have not been amended, and