Well that is your view, we respect that. No, no. No, no, no, we will come back to that. The damage of state capture which we are bold enough, brave enough and frank enough to talk about, on the one hand, but also brave enough and frank enough to tackle on the other hand, whereas the members on my left have absolutely no clue what so ever - and are remaining in denial! [Applause.]
So, they should tell us, hon members: What is the real deal in Johannesburg? [Interjections.] What is the real deal? What is the mayor really up to in Johannesburg? And that will then tell you where we really stand! And it does not involve the ANC at all, as we understand it! However, let us come back! The public is interested ... [Interjections.]