Having said all of that, I would like to say that the current chairperson is doing what he can in the circumstances that he faces. The reasons they have not been performing is not because they choose not to perform as Mr Hlengwa said that they haven't even given them enough support. But that's my view and that of the majority and certainly the ANC and my comrade there, Thandi Tobias whom I see more often than my own partner these days. You know what, no, there's no nefarious thing; we work together; and she's the Whip and I'm the Chair. Do you think if I was having a relationship with Thandi Tobias-Pokolo I would say so publicly here? Secondly, anybody who observes in the committee knows that we fight a lot in the committee. [Interjections.] Yes, that's transparency.