mean it doesn't bode well for the future prospects of Eskom's status and rating with the agencies. Because how can you trust someone that is implicated in stealing from its very own entity? My question is this, what happens when there is absolutely no money left. You already spoke about whether it come out of the Department of Education, police, where does the money come from? Because, at some point it actually has to stop. I don't understand why there is absolute complete disregard to even consider the way the DA has requested a meeting around the table where we look at separating Eskom into two entities, one being generation and one being transmission. Obviously, retaining transmission as a national asset. But why there is this absolute reluctance to think of it an anyway privatization part of the transmission. It would soften the debt burden so tremendously.