Thank you mam. Hon Minister of Small Business and Enterprises, you are entitled to your own opinion but not to your own facts!
Hon Mulder! Please can you leave the issue behind and continue. We are trying to be as calm as possible. Thank you.
Yes, let's do that.
Hon Chairperson, we need to put it on record - in fact, hon Mantashe said to us sitting here as the Whips on Duty that we cannot... [Interjections.]
Hon member, I can't hear the member!
... he even said its inhuman to allow somebody to cry and not attend to it. He was so touched by it and he came to us one by one and what we were trying to do was not to disturb hon Carter in her speech.