Thank you, take your seat. That is irrelevant and that is not a point of order. Hon members, hon Ntshayisa is not here, he's doing both debates but should he come back before number 15, he will be given an opportunity. But, should he return after number 15 it's gone. That's how we do it. Thank you very much. Now, I'll go to hon Mamabolo.
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