Hon House Chair and hon members, good afternoon. Allow me with your permission before I get to the response of Question 215 to wish hon Zuki Ncitha a happy birthday today. As I respond to the question that was raised by hon Matibe, the department did seek the services of the Government Technical Advisory Centre, Gtac, to assist the SABC in developing a turnaround strategy. As part of that turnaround strategy, what we ensured was to make sure that the turnaround strategy talks to the financial sustainability of the SABC, doing away with unnecessary costs but most importantly making sure that the SABC will become the best choice of a public broadcaster and the turnaround plan was approved by the SABC board in September 2019. Thank you, hon Deputy Chair.