Probably let me also help the hon member. Like any responsible organisation, when you have debts you engage with the people that you owe to arrange. You say, we do understand that we owe so much but this is what we can afford and therefore, over this period this is what we will afford to pay you. The reason SABC has managed to pay those municipalities is that their debt is lower and most importantly SABC has engaged with its own creditors and debtors to arrange a payment plan. As I
am speaking to you now, out of the R2,1 billion that we got from the Treasury, SABC has paid about R1,3 billion to the people that it owed. That is why we are confident that it will make a turnaround because at least it is on good record with its own people that is working with. I mean those that are driving the core business of the SABC and the relations have been improved. Thank you, hon Deputy Chair.
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