Yes, hon member,
I am not happy with the co-ordination as you can see in the Fifth Administration that a target was set of six million EPWP jobs. We didn't reach the target. The target for the next five years has been set at five million and we are now addressing all of the problems that gave rise to us not meeting that target. Whether EPWP workers can become permanent, no, it's an agreement between the social partners of the National Economic Development and Labour Council, Nedlac, private sector, public sector and civil society that this is a temporary job creation project to alleviate poverty, but we now also added over the years a skills training project so that people work there and at least get some skills. But it's not a permanent job opportunity.
What do happen is that some municipalities use the EPWP workers to do work that they must have on their own budget as their own line function and pay from their own budget. But the weight has been designed since its inception in 2003 - its temporary jobs.