Hon members, order please, that concludes the debate on this subject. Can I get your attention, can I get your attention. On Thursday, 11 July 2019 - if you can all listen, I would really appreciate it. At the end of the mini plenary, I undertook to consider the Hansard and returned to the National Assembly with the ruling I have now considered. During the debate on Public Service and Administration Budget Vote 10, the hon Khawula rose on a point of order and said " Asinaye uRingo la, sino honourable Ringo", which means we do not have Ringo here, we have honourable Ringo. I then ruled that it was not a point of order as hon Maneli spoke admirably of the hon Madlingozi when he said:
At least as I was coming here, I was motivated because the ANC recognises talent of South Africans, there is an esteemed South African that I listen to his music, as I was coming here it was
very motivating. Of course that musician would be non other than Ringo. I like him 'so went hon Maneli' and like this song Shut the tears and grow.
Well I don't know that one; he makes the point that this thing will not just happen, he even quotes Biko that:
God is not in the habit of coming down to resolve our problems; in fact he goes further to sat that we teach the children not to take the freedom for granted.
Hon members after several further points order, I directed hon Maneli as follows: "Hon Maneli, if it happens that you refer to the name of a person, please respectfully do so". I now recognise that the point of order of hon Khawula was indeed a valid point of order, whether the hon member has a stage persona or is a celebrity who celebrity name is fondly raised by people who love and follow him, as honourable members, we should refer to each other in House and mini plenary sessions respectfully as directed by rule 82 (1).
You will also remember that the time I had indeed directed the hon Maneli to do so, I also recognised that hon Maneli offered the Madlingozi an apology, when resumed his speech. Therefore no further need to direct him in this particular regard. Thank you very much.