We don't know and we don't think anybody knows. You are actually saying illegal undocumented. So if a person is not documented then you won't know about them. Because they are not documented, they came into the country illegally. It's more or less like asking me whether the police know how many criminals are there in the country. And I am not saying undocumented migrants are criminals, but police knows about a crime when it's committed. They can't say outright that so many people fall in that category.
So, we simply don't know and it's not because we don't know what is happening within the department, we know very much and that is why we know that we are not sure of the numbers, it is because we know. Yes, we know what is happening in the department so we won't know the numbers because we know what is happening. And that is why I said the solution to this problem is to establish a Border Management Authority Bill, as you know has been passed in the National Assembly. What is left is for this House to also pass the Bill and then we can start monitoring the borders. Perhaps we will stand a chance of knowing who is inside the country. At the moment, no, we can't know.