I understand the difficulty some people have in comprehending Chair. [Interjections]. It is important because if we wish to have higher learning institutions of excellence, we must address the paralyzing effect of unions in our schools. We cannot have NSFAS limping and operating in crises mode. Chair, it must ...
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF HIGHER EDUCATION, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY
(Mr K B Manamela): Point of order.
The ACTING HOUSE CHAIR (Ms L S MAKHUBELA-MASHELE: Hon member
please can you take your seat. I note you hon Deputy Minister.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF HIGHER EDUCATION, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY
(Mr K B Manamela): Thank you, my point order is based on relevance. I think this hon member cannot that this is a higher education debate. He is crying in the wrong ... [Inaudible].
The ACTING HOUSE CHAIR (Ms L S MAKHUBELA-MASHELE: Hon member
that is a point of debate not a point of order. Hon member you may continue.