Hon members, I cannot be expected, as the presiding officer, to make a ruling on matters that have to do ... [Interjections.] Order! Order! Hon members, we are in a House sitting, when we make political statements that have to do with the proceedings of your committees it is not for me to neither confirm nor deny. It is not for me; it is a political statement that is made in a political House and therefore I cannot be dragged into making a ruling as to whether a member was there or not. Hon Makue, can you continue with the debate.