Chair, on a point of order: I humbly request that when you rule on misconduct of members of this House, that you must not be bias and you must be consistent. I am appealing to you with due respect. Whatever hon Koni did, was a reaction to what Mr Hattingh said. I am appealing to you to treat us equally. With due respect, I am not contesting your ruling. I am just stating that whenever we react, we react based on what ... You can hear both of them, with this one. And he is new, for that matter. This one is new. This one. [Interjection.]