Mr Hlengwa is generally a very sober, helpful, useful and productive member of this committee. I can only take it that he is saying what he is saying because he didn't attend the meetings. In the first instance, we didn't blindly agree, Mr Hlengwa. In fact, in the very first meeting both the DA and ANC said, let's get more information before we vote on this. It is not blindly. You were not there but it doesn't mean we were blind.