Hon Deputy Speaker and colleagues, let's start off by saying that I do not believe - and the NFP is very clear about this - it is Eskom that's the problem. It is the people who manage Eskom that are the problem, and if you don't deal with those that manage Eskom you are not going to deal with the challenges that Eskom faces.
Many, many years ago we established ... and we knew that we were going to have a serious problem with Eskom, firstly, with regard to maintenance. There was no budget set aside for maintenance and very little attention was given to maintenance. We were forewarned. We did very little or nothing about it.
Now the question is, why? Let me also say what we did. We got rid of many experienced engineers and things that worked at Eskom.