House Chairperson, corruption pervades all sections of society. You find it in the public sector and you find it in the private sector. We can stand here all day pointing fingers at one another, saying this one is more corrupt but than that one. But there is corruption everywhere. [Interjections.] What is most important is what is being done about it. This ANC government has ensured that investigations are conducted and their reports released. It was this ANC government that ensured that VBS was investigated in the face of opposition from some members of the EFF. [Interjections.]