Thank you, Chair, for coming to my rescue. I think he understands what I mean, because if he is doing what he is doing, then I do not believe that his own organisation will succeed. We want to empower everybody with skills and also with financial capabilities. Thank you.
Vote agreed to (Democratic Alliance and Independent Democrats dissenting).
Vote No 12 - Public Service and Administration - put.
Vote agreed to (Democratic Alliance and Independent Democrats dissenting).
Vote No 13 - Statistics South Africa - put and agreed to.
Vote No 14: Arts and Culture - put:
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