The hon Minister knows because Mr Mpontshane said so! [Laughter.] Order, hon members!
AYES - 181: Abram, S; Adams, P E; Ainslie, A R; Bapela, K O; Bhengu, F; Bhengu, N R; Bhoola, R B; Bikani, F C; Bonhomme, T; Borman, G M; Boshigo, D F; Botha, Y R; Bothman, S G; Burgess, C V; Cele, M A; Chikunga, L S; Chiloane, T D; Chohan, F I; Coleman, E M; Cwele, S C; Dambuza, B N; Daniels, P N; De Lange, J H; Diale, L N; Dikgacwi, M M; Ditshetelo, I C; Dlakude, D E; Dlamini-Zuma, N C; Dlulane, B N; Dudley, C; Duma, N M; Dunjwa, M L; Fihla, N B; Frolick, C T; Fubbs, J L; Gasebonwe, T M A; Gaum, A H; Gcwabaza, N E; Gelderblom, J P; Gina, N; Goqwana, M B; Gumede, D M; Hajaig, F; Hanekom, D A; Huang, S - B; Jeffery, J H; Johnson, M; Kekana, C D; Kenye, T E; Kholwane, S E; Khumalo, F E; Khunou, N P; Koornhof, G W; Lekgetho, G; Lesoma, R M M; Line, H; Lishivha, T E; Luyenge, Z; Mabasa, X; Mabedla, N R; Mabuza, M C; Madlala, N M; Madlopha, C Q; Mafolo, M V; Magama, H T; Magubane, E; Magwanishe, G; Makasi, X C; Makhubela-Mashele, L S; Makhubele, Z S; Malale, M l; Malgas, H H; Maluleka, H P; Maluleke, J M; Manamela, K B; Manana, M C; Mandela, Z M D; Mangena, M S; Maserumule, F T; Mashigo, R M; Mashishi, A C; Masilo, J M; Masutha, T M; Mathebe, P M; Mathibela, N F; Matlanyane, H F; Matshoba, J M; Mavunda, D W; Mayatula, S M; Mbili, M E; Mdaka, M N; Mdakane, M R; Mgabadeli, H C O; Mjobo, L N; Mlambo, E M; Mmusi, S G; Mnisi, N A; Mohale, M C; Mohorosi, M; Mokoena, A D; Molewa, B E E; Moloi-Moropa, J C; Moloto, K A; Moni, C M; Moss, L N; Motimele, M S; Motsepe, R M; Mthethwa, E N; Mthethwa, E M; Mufamadi, T A; Mushwana, F F; Ndabandaba, L B G; Ndabeni, S T; Ndlanzi, A Z; Nelson, W J; Nene, N M; Newhoudt-Druchen, W S; Ngcengwane, N D; Ngcobo, B T; Ngcobo, E N N; Ngele, N J; Ngwenya, W; Ngwenya-Mabila, P C; Nhlengethwa, D G; Nonkonyana, M; November, N T; Ntapane, S Z; Ntuli, Z C; Nxesi, T W; Nxumalo, M D; Nyalungu, R E; Nyekemba, E; Oliphant, G G; Pandor, G N M; Peters, E D; Petersen-Maduna, P; Phaahla, M J; Phaliso, M N; Pilane-Majake, M C C; Pilusa-Mosoane, M E; Radebe, B A; Radebe, G S; Saal, G; Schneemann, G D; Segale-Diswai, M J; September, C C; Sibanyoni, J B; Sibiya, D; Sindane, G S; Sithole, S C N; Sizani, P S; Skosana, J J; Smith, V G; Snell, G T; Sogoni, E M; Sonto, M R; Sosibo, J E; Suka, L; Sulliman, E M; Sunduza, T B; Surty, M E; Swart, S N; Tinto, B; Tlake, M F; Tobias, T V; Tsebe, S R; Tseke, G K; Tsenoli, S L; Tshabalala, J; Tshwete, P; Tsotetsi, D R; Twala, N M; Van der Merwe, S C; Van Rooyen, D D; Van Wyk, A; Williams, A J; Williams-De Bruyn, S T; Xaba, P P; Xasa, T; Ximbi, D L; Zulu, B Z.
NOES - 23: Bhanga, B M; Cebekhulu, R N; Diemu, B C; Dikobo, K J; Kganare, D A; Kilian, J D; Koornhof, N J J; Lucas, E J; Madisha, W M; Makhuba, H N; Mbhele, P D; McIntosh, G B D; Mnguni, P B; Mpontshane, A M; Msimang, C T; Msweli, H S; Ndlovu, V B; Njobe, M A A; Ntshiqela, P; Plaatjies, S K; Ramatlakane, L; Singh, N; Sithole, K P.
ABSTAIN - 41: De Freitas, M S F; Eloff, E H; Esau, S; Farrow, S B; George, D T; Greyling, L W; Hill-Lewis, G G; Kloppers-Lourens, J C; Krumbock, G R; Lorimer, J R B; Lotriet, A; Marais, E J; Marais, S J F; Maynier, D H; Mazibuko, L D; McGluwa, J J; Michael, N W A; Mokgalapa, S; More, E; Motau, S C; Ollis, I M; Paulse, S; Rabie, P J; Rabotapi, P M W; Robinson, D; Schfer, D A; Selfe, J; Shinn, M R; Smalle, J F; Steenhuisen, J H; Steyn, A; Stubbe, D J; Swart, M; Swathe, M M; Van den Berg, N J; Van der Linde, J J; Van der Westhuizen, A P; Van Schalkwyk, H C; Waters, M; Watson, A; Wenger, M.
Question agreed to.
Bill accordingly read a second time.