Chair, I hope I don't understand the member to mean that universities and libraries are not as important as any other educational infrastructure. I think we agree that they are. We have given this commitment. In terms of what we tell the taxpayer that learners will not ... I am not even sure about this R2,5 billion she is talking about. I know we are on track in terms of the expenditure that we have.

Last year, we were given R700 million, which we spent fully. This year it was R2 billion, and it has been fully spent and/or committed. The bulk of the money that is going to come in next year, which is R5 billion, is the money that has been rescheduled.

But in terms of the R2,4 billion, I don't know what she is talking about. Perhaps when the chair of the committee is at a meeting she can talk about that R2-point-something billion. As the Minister, in terms of the reports that I have been receiving from officials - even in terms of our implementing agent which is the Development Bank of Southern Africa - there is no R2-point-something billion. We didn't even have that amount. I don't know where the R2,4 billion would have come from, because as the department we are only allocated R2 billion. I am not sure how it could even be unspent when it has been completely committed. I can furnish the member with information, because I think there is a crossing of lines. I am not sure of what she is talking about.

Vote No 16 - Health - put.