Chairperson, I am surprised the Minister found time to be here today, given the fact that she is so busy - we hear in the corridors - with a recount of the former Minister's flights on ultraluxury Gulfstream jets. [Laughter.]

Turning to the adjusted Estimate of Expenditure, I note that an additional R63 million will be provided for counterpiracy operations under Operation Copper. But I have also noted in weekend newspapers that the four frigates, which are the mainstay of Operation Copper, are defective with major engine trouble. My question to the Minister is: Would the Minister tell us how she intends spending the R63 million when the four frigates are reportedly caput? Thank you.