The second part of the question implies racism and I refuted that earlier on, both in the organisational capacity and my personal capacity. There are two provisions in our Constitution: One in respect of ensuring that previously-marginalised people in particular African people must be empowered; and secondly, in doing so, we must ensure that we also follow the principle of nonracialism in the ... I don't think there is any point in talking, Chairperson. [Interjections.] There is noise.