Firstly, Mr Njenje was not dismissed so we can't give a reason for dismissal. Mr Njenje was not dismissed by the State Security Agency. [Applause.] We agree, however, with the hon Ngonyama that we are accountable to this House. That is why we have come here to give the answers, and that is why we are also raising issues of national security. We have not refused to give an answer. I would just like to say that we believe we have answered, because the question referred to "the sudden departure", but there was no sudden departure of intelligence agent Gibson Njenje. Njenje is not an intelligence agent.
Before the end of his contract of three years, Mr Njenje was the head, was the leader, of that intelligence organisation. As to whether the likely departure of Mo Shaik and Jeff Maqethuka is linked to political interference and influence, I have answered that question. There was no political interference in that departure. We have no intention of interfering politically. I have also explained the substantive legal and procedural processes followed. These members are appointed in terms of the Public Service Act and in consultation with the Minister for the Public Service and Administration. I thank you, hon Speaker. [Applause.]