Hon member, I am now dealing with the matter at hand, while I am presiding. [Interjections.]
Hon member, take your seat, please. I am busy addressing the House, and I will recognise you when I have done so. I am presiding over this matter on the declarations that relate to the Order in front of us, and I am simply applying the Rule as it stands, that matters referring to other hon members must be raised through a substantive motion. That should be done in that way.
In the light of that, I am thus requesting you to withdraw the remark that you made and provide you with the opportunity to raise those issues through a substantive motion. [Interjections.] Hon Shivambu, I have not recognised you. Will you take your seat, please? I am dealing with the hon member next to you. Hon member ... Hon Shivambu, I have not recognised you, sir. [Interjections.]