If other role-players have done so, then surely Mr Young is obligated to reveal exactly who these people are in a transparent manner and not in a manner which jeopardises the integrity of our constitutional democracy.
I want to acknowledge certain things because the ANC introduced transparency into this country and into this democracy. [Interjections.] And may I say that, indeed, there have been certain complex arrangements such as the National Industrial Participation Programme, which falls under the DTI, at a civilian level and under Armscor, at a defence level. But perhaps there had been many challenges, I would agree in that regard, in the offset process, but these are being corrected.
In fact, several years ago this ANC government acknowledged that the procurement processes were faulty and has indeed taken active measures to correct them. [Interjections.] Understandably, hon Trent, in our nascent democracy, which had only been in place a few years at that particular time, we could expect problems to arise.
One thing this ANC government has done within three years, within five years, and it never took 48 years - a few years, and be careful, Tony - within a few years we corrected this. Furthermore, we should not forget that the Armscor acquisition policy was enacted pre-1994.
Now it has undergone a drastic review and led to the drafting of a new set of policies which were passed in 2004. Quite frankly, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom say to us: "You have accelerated the reform of your public service faster than we could ever have attempted." [Applause.] Now get that! [Interjections.]
If I may, I will just take a little water. [Laughter.]